toward a solution...

...here's where we're going... http://syog.blogspot.com

I suggest a look below before proceeding...

The suggestion has been planted...start 1.20.007...let's see how long it takes to clarify the issue.
This will give us some indication of our ability to get together on key topics...not agree, necessarily...get together with purpose...here we go!

Outside what box?...there are no boxes involved, anywhere else in nature...only inside our gourds.